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posted by [personal profile] jwaneeta at 05:24pm on 26/06/2005
I was in the midst of a big old meme post yesterday, and while fetching links for Ten Celebrities I Don't Find All That Attractive, I picked up that racka-fracka ABI bug. Wow, that's one nasty little piece of adware. I've got Norton and AdAware and firewalls for days, but they got me good.

It's been 48 hours of Spysweep downloads, Webroot scans, purgings and patches (and btw, thanks for nothing, Symantec), but things seem to be settling down. I'm only getting one or two popups an hour, as opposed to a dozen layering up faster than I could close them. I found some good tips at various boards, and as much as it costs me to say it, Microsoft's latest adware-killing DL seems to have taken care of the stubborn offscourings. Filthy! I hope Aurora, abetterinternet, and everyone associated with them may burst.

Attended my first Quaker meeting today (well, technically my second: I accompanied a friend to a meeting in San Diego several years ago). The meeting's held in a coffee house called Common Grounds. It's a small group, and they "gather in silence," which is the traditional form of Quaker worship.

After an hour the silent period ended and we were joined by the county prosecutor, who'd been invited to talk about his Restoration programs for criminals and victims of crime. Interesting man: he started as an FBI agent, and after becoming a prosecutor practiced for a while in the south, where he became involved in alternate means of addressing recidivism. He's introducing programs locally to help victims cope with the aftermath of crime, and other programs to keep released cons (especially those with addictions and mental illness) from cycling back into prison.

ETA: On second thought I should mention this. One of the prosecutor's ideas for helping victims involves trained volunteers who will clean up crime scenes so the victim or the victim's family doesn't have to. Taking up and disposing of bloodstained carpeting, etc. It's a compassionate and humane idea, and I'm ashamed to say I never even thought about that aspect of crime before.

After the meeting broke up, I chatted a bit with a couple of attendees, and we spoke about the Quaker classic A Testimony of Devotion, and the similarities between Catholic and Quaker mysticism (as regards contemplative prayer they're identical, at any rate).

I liked it, and them, and I'm planning to go back next week.

What with all the malware drama I sorta lost interest in my Unattractive Celebs post, but I will say this: Ashton Kutchner, ack. Also: Batman Begins is well worth seeing. Seriously.
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posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 12:42am on 27/06/2005
So glad the Quaker meeting is working out for you! I'm not sure I could stay silent in a group for a whole hour (I'd be inclined to mistake my own social unease for a prompting from the Holy Spirit to speak, and so would have to work extra hard at keeping my mouth shut) -- but that probably means that it's exactly what I need!

Again, felicitations and blessings on your new worshiping community.
 
posted by [identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com at 02:00am on 27/06/2005
Silent common prayer is a staple for Catholic monastics, so I was right at home. It was nice.

However I seem to be eating my heart out with grief and nostalgia tonight. Quite sharp and agonal. Transitions are a bitch.
 
posted by [identity profile] revdorothyl.livejournal.com at 02:13am on 27/06/2005
Yep, and on the scale of "stress" and "grief," changing your religious community/denomination has to be right up there with losing a spouse and moving to a totally new city, put together, if you've been truly and deeply committed to your religious institutions.

No way out but through it, but at least you recognize grief for what it is and can work through it. I think Freud may have been right in "Mourning and Melancholia" when he said (and this is my loose translation/condensation, only) that Melancholia (serious depression) is what happens when we don't or can't recognize what it is that we've lost, and so can't mourn for it properly and move on. It's not just what a person or thing IS in itself, but also what it once represented to us and the trust and love we've invested in it (or them) that must be mourned.

So, good for you for recognizing what you're about and having the courage and good sense to cry for what you miss.
 
posted by [identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com at 08:06am on 27/06/2005
That was damned generous. Thanks.
 
posted by [identity profile] klytaimnestra.livejournal.com at 05:49pm on 27/06/2005
Entirely to be expected. It's like a, it is a, major breakup, with all the problems that entails (among them, the problem of the drunken 2 a.m. phone call begging the beloved to give you another chance ... maybe we could just get together for coffee ... it worked once didn't it, we can make it better can't we?)

All this just to say that I'm sure you will visitCatholic churches from time to time and wonder what you should do, what's best really. It's very hard. I know that you will come to the best decision, whatever it is. These Quakers sound great, btw.

I'm sorry you can't find a sympathetic priest. One that will let you go to all the Quaker meetings you want but come to Mass too. Say. Or just one you can talk to.
 
posted by [identity profile] archbishopm.livejournal.com at 01:35am on 27/06/2005
My meme gave you worms? >:-(
 
posted by [identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com at 01:57am on 27/06/2005
The villain is a site called Hot Celebrities Poll, or something. I'm so lecherous these days I could hardly come up with ten turnoffs on my own, and went there to jog my memory. Godwhatamistake.

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posted by [identity profile] makd.livejournal.com at 04:49am on 27/06/2005
Very glad the Quaker meeting worked out well for you. And, yes, the transition time can be hard, but you'll be fine in the end.

Bummer on the worm...I've heard they are very difficult to erase. My husband had a pop-up problem on his old computer that was ludicrous (spell?) and took him weeks to fix.

Like [livejournal.com profile] revdorothyl, I don't think I could've sat for the silent hour. It's embarrassing, really! I used to do contemplative exercises and meditation, but that was light years and another life away!!

Finally, I really enjoyed Batman Begins. I've always enjoyed Batman much more than Superman.
 
posted by [identity profile] jwaneeta.livejournal.com at 08:51am on 27/06/2005
I'd started on a whole big Batman Begins review when the evil Trojan came down. Honest, it was all about the comics and film and blah de blah. For once, I was actually working at journaling.

God smite these adbug creeps, anyway.

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